Dick Heiser created the world's first computer store in Los Angeles, and there in the window was Ted Nelson's COMPUTER LIB-- which he considered the best introduction to computers for the beginner. (Still available! -- see below.) This is his presentation at the Chapman U. "Intertwingled" conference, in April 1964. Note that virgin copies of "Computer Lib", originals from 1974 or shrink-wrapped reprints from 2013, are available from James Risberg at Nelswag.com. Meanwhile, the published proceedings of the "Intertwingled" conference are available as a hardback book, or as a free download from publisher Springer-Verlag, at https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-319-16925-5